Funny how, again like he wasnt a true x-tian believers say they pray for healing for the abuser, his family and -oh yes I nearly forgot, the victim too. Ask any abuse survivor, however spiritual and close to god they were before the abuse and they will say they have never got over it, its affected or ruined their lives for many decades. Nothing in this post should be construed as an accusation of guilt. Ok first of our Pastor Shiflett is not out to whoever said that Christians Say the Darnedest Things: Coach Dave Daubenmire Exposes His Racism For All to See, Dr. David Tee Thinks Everyone Who is Not a Christian is an Atheist, Bruce, I Pray You Will Have Your Eyes Opened and the Truth will Guide You, Black Collar Crime: Evangelical Pastor William Tim Smith, Jr. I believe he did it and is guilty but I doubt a DA will pursue a misdemeanor offense that is past statue of limitations which also has the accused in another state that would require extradition. Tyler is a pastor in Olympia, WA and works in State government. #torture, Stacey Shiflett (@staceyshiflett) May 11, 2018, Most relevant to this issue is his enthusiastic embrace of toxic masculinity.. Not teach sexual acts.. Christ came to set people free FROM religion. See his Twitter for more info confirming this. It only took 12 days. I saw homophobia, racism, ethnic slurs, and the usual lack of empathy you would expect from the conservative fundamentalist stereotype. Giovanelli also served as the associate pastor at Immanuel Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida, and was reportedly supposed to be the president of North Florida Baptist College when it opens up in fall 2020. Trieber about how the staff member who raped two teem age girls, impregnating one of them. I trust that as time goes on, you will accept the simple reality that we are just people, not born in sin or born bad or fallen from grace, just people who sometimes need help from ourselves and one another. I get that there are repercussions when you speak out on any given issue, but there are also repercussions when you dont. Shiflett: I am very grateful for some very positive results today. Curfew for students is 10:30pm. This is exactly why the IFB has such a negative reputation, for decades of dealing with sex crimes in-house, in secret, and without the proper authorities. If you contact the accused about the allegation you just destroyed that opportunity ie YOU OBSTRUCTED A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. Get it documented by the police. How do you know Christ was radical? one person sharpens another. Dating is limited to "church dates" as well as planned activities on or off campus with chaperones. Regarding his own victimization, Shiflett says, I was a victim because people knew and never said anything. When someone comes forward as he and the victim did, this inspires other victims to come forward as well; hence, we now know that Giovanelli had at least 3 victims, not just one. She will pursue justice in court & our church will continue to support her. The Members are the customers. Golden State Baptist College. Threads 1 Messages 2. Classes for the fall semester of 2022 have officially begun. Ask Bro. Yes I have read the law and the worst case scenario for him would be 1 year of prison and a fine. Professional clergy who are insulated from the real world in a Christian bubble (see the sub-culture bit, above), who wrongly or ignorantly fear the attention of the professional, dedicated men and women in criminal and regulatory investigations who are ready, able and willing to handle these matters if theyd only bereported. But unfortunately, the way the law works in this country he needs to be convicted of a crime. There has been absolutely no proof provided, yet people are ready to hang him and totally ruin his name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVLn59Ujg-o, Or, you can youtube Response by Pastor Stacey Shiflett to North Valley Baptist Church. Stacey Shiflett (@staceyshiflett) March 24, 2018, Pretty sure the liberals that are feigning righteous indignation at enhanced interrogation wouldnt hesitate to waterboard our President if they thought they could get him to admit to Russian collusion. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. How many ministries when someone is caught, the police are properly called and the perpetrator handled by the authorities? These kind of laws apply to pastors, counselors, doctors, lawyers, social workers, dentists anyone who has a professional relationship with someone else. The Ministry is the company. 3520 De La Cruz Blvd. Jasmine, I had no idea that it was removed until you mentioned it. In my 65 years of life it has been my experience that religion harms, that it is the world champion liar of all liars. NVBC did what they could legally. Dont get me wrong, I am stoked at what hes doing, all things considered, but the fact is that were talking about a crime, not just a sin.As such, reporting to local authorities is the only right wayto handle it, especially when were talking about a serial pedophile. That was the point of my above post. As of the writing of this post, no criminal charges have been filed. Its not that they shouldnt forgive, but that the wounds are so fresh that justice should be the first concern. Today, the man charged with rape has been arrested and Concord's Trinity Baptist Church is at the center of that scandal for allegedly protecting one of its members and perhaps hiding the victim from police scrutiny. I know the alleged victim was not happy about what was said, or that it wasnt said the way that she wanted, but it was likely handled that way for that reason. Morality comes from a love for Life! If you dont deal with it properly, it will come back to bite you in the end eventually. You dont talk to the Perp. Sentenced to Nine Years in Prison for Attempted Child Rape, Black Collar Crime: Missionary Baptist Pastor James Smith II, Accused of Defrauding Church to Support His Drug Habit, Black Collar Crime: Southern Baptist Pastor Kenneth Ken Daniels Accused of Sexually Abusing Children, Short Stories: The Chapel Library Tape Lending Library, How Evangelical Conditioning and Indoctrination Influences Revivals, Black Collar Crime: Evangelical Pastor Stricjavvar Strick Strickland Sentenced to One Year in Jail for Facilitation of Travel Services for Purposes of Prostitution, Update: Black Collar Crime: Southern Baptist Pastor James Rankin Pleads Guilty to Possession of Child Pornography, Black Collar Crime: Evangelical Pastor Daniel Merrick Charged with Possessing Child Pornography, Blames Wife for His Crimes, A Love Story About Bruce and Polly Gerencser, Written by AI. My verse in the whole thing is Prov. You dont saybooh. You do not get to tell a victim how or when or where to talk about their experience. With a few significant adjustments, I wish we had more people like him on our side. Look carefully then how you walk, not as unwise but as wise, making the best use of the time, because the days areevil. You listened to the victim, took her seriously, and dealt with the situation as best you knew you how. Neal, unfortunately . They will be exposed and dealtwith. I asked her if she had approached Pastor T. after the service and she said to his face, How could you allow him back again, and then she said that Pastor T. looked at her and said that there was nothing he could do. Preacher Shiflett, I am sorry you have been harmed and I am grateful that you are willing to speak out. 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Its not even the fact that he messed up! You can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink. Even in that Calvary pastors statement hes acting like the church can practice sharia law or something, but this is America and we have due process. When the victim finally went to the police, Shiflett said: I was so aggravated that all of my efforts to try and get this thing handled, to minimize the damage to the cause of Christ, the word in the community, to minimize the collateral damage that always happens with something like that. Any and every societal classification is going to have its horribly bad apples. Jackson told the courtroom that it was not a one-time abuse., This was months of daily, calculated decisions by my pastor, teacher and boss, she said. Proof again the gals are not taking it anymore. You have to ask yourself what your priorities are the safety and well-being of victims or your popularity and social status? Good job to pastor Shiflett. Even though there are some gaping holes in your message, I can tell you that for the first time in almost ten years, I have this small twinge of faith and hope in IFB leadership. Shiflett says that since he posted his video hehas been flooded from all over the world pastors, laymen, parents, Bible college students, staff members, people that are not even in church, people that are not even saved, reaching out to disclose their own experiences, ask for help, and thank him for speaking up. Therefore do not become partners with them; for at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. The supporters of Jack Hyles and First Baptist Church in Hammond, Indiana are, by far, the worst. Acceptance rate by state; Private School Review 244 5th Avenue, # J-229 New York, NY 10001. Human beings are more important than reputations. He may never be able to pastor another church again, and Im sure those who he is rebuking will come after him for retribution in some way or shape. As the family sat in his office he promised that if the family did not press charges of rape against the staff member than the staff member would never come back. Its kind of a lose-lose situation for them because they wanted to address the situation and not make it look like they were trying to cover it up (to me I really dont think they are doing that since he doesnt work there anymore and I think I read hes been banned from coming to the church), but they cant just say hes guilty and all that on a nation stream when the courts havent proven that yet. Here, Shiflett takes on a big name IFB leader and megachurch to defend a rape victim, yet the rest of his social media tells awhole other story: from shaming and vilifying shooting survivors and victim families (which really is just sick), to jokes about waterboarding and torture. But, abusers dont stop until they are made to stop. they dont. So so sad. She originally wasnt going to press charges but because NVBC mishandled the situation on their live stream with their statement,she pressed charges Thursday morning. I actually think Pastor Shifflet was unwise in the statement he made, even if it was true and it was how he felt, for that very reason. Handle this the right way.. The perp went tojail. Trieber and North Valley Baptist Church have a bad track record when it comes to dealing with stories such as this, so they will not get a pass from me. So when it comes to politics and the self-preservation of his personal agenda, he does indeed defend abusers. Every preacher across this land should follow his lead. He took the job and did not worry, because this isnt true! And none of this is in the NT bible. A Baptist pastor and former college president accused of "grooming" and sexually abusing a teenager over a decade ago as a pastor in Maryland has been sentenced to 90 days in jail after pleading guilty to lesser charges in December. 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