I rinsed my hand really good with cold water and doused it with antibacterial gel and that worked. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1319453418302777, https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/gardening-safety, https://jbji.copernicus.org/articles/6/51/2020/, https://www.cureus.com/articles/79229-a-thorn-in-a-haystack-a-rare-case-of-septic-arthritis, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8241251/, https://academic.oup.com/rheumatology/article-abstract/61/5/e137/6322974, https://www.arthritis.org/health-wellness/treatment/joint-surgery/safety-and-risks/understand-your-joint-surgery-options, https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2513826X19876505. (it's like a very small thorn)? to be about 10-12 ft . Although it is associated with serious injuries, this type of injury is often underdiagnosed and is not sufficiently reported in the literature. Plant thorn arthritis is a rare form of arthritis in which a plant thorn punctures a joint, causing inflammation. More than once similiar accident happened on me through a Sabal sp involved My daughter was scratched by Copernicia alba the first day I got it from _Keith. The other day I was taking a pic of a Carpoxylon, and grabbed the old dead leaf by the petiole to tear it off. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Liver failure is always a possibility in cases of sago palm poisoning. Palms have found ways to injure me in a variety of ways. By Sasha Degnan. Those thorns are cruel. A ruptured spleen can be a life threatening condition and requires immediate attention. "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Initial treatment may involve antibiotics to help prevent infection from the thorn. Yearly Minimum - 26 (-4C). Shortly after the puncture, he received antibiotics that temporarily relieved his pain and swelling. We avoid using tertiary references. Hot and cold Med. My dad was working on a job today and he got stabbed in the lower thigh by the knee by a palm tree thorn i think it was a date palm tree im not sure. Numerous times I have found myself torn open by the climbing whip like flagella or cirri (depending on the species that I have blundered into). Phoenix can be nasty too. All rights reserved. Thorns are the main protective mechanism of the palm tree to eschew from the herbivores. Duerinckx JF. before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. P.S. how can i take it out? When planting my Brahea armata in a raised bed, I decided to place a 2" diameter tube in the soil to get water down to the root zone. Doctors may take a biopsy of the synovial fluid, which is the fluid around the joint that lubricates it and allows smooth movement. Steve, those nested quotes look like something out of John Barth. The worst I've heard: My next door neighbor was wearing flip flops and she stepped on the base of a P. canariansis frond. The unexpected nasty injury was a cut from an Archontophoenix petiole I grabbed and tried to yank off a palm. At least that is what I have found through some studies and my own experiences. DOI: cdc.gov/fungal/diseases/mycetoma/index.html, cdc.gov/fungal/diseases/sporotrichosis/index.html, How to Identify and Treat an Infected Cut, Achilles Tendon Rupture: Symptoms to Look For, Debra Sullivan, Ph.D., MSN, R.N., CNE, COI, Ruptured Spleen: Symptoms and Treatment in Adults and Children. Full content visible, double tap to read brief content. Some foods may increase inflammation or trigger pain for people with arthritis. TOP QUALITY - This mug is made from ceramic and is perfect for any cold or hot beverages. Report back, K? Case report: Subacute synovitis of the knee after a rose thorn injury: Unusual clinical picture. 0.6 Acres of a south facing, gently sloped dirt pile, soon to be impenetrable jungle. The knee is the most common joint affected, but it can also affect the hands, wrists, and ankles. Healthline has strict sourcing guidelines and relies on peer-reviewed studies, academic research institutions, and medical associations. The. The leaf did not move but my hand slid across the knife sharp petiole. I have had 2 close calls with falling dead leafs, one with a W. robusta leaf crushing down a meter from me outside Tampa Aquarium while standing for a photo and another was with a Phoenix canariensis leaf which was to fall exactly where i was but i heard it break free from the palm and moved away just in time before it crushed there. Well, I haven't but here is what I found in a search. (2007). Over time the mass grows larger and develops oozing sores, making the affected limb unusable. . Mine too. Help others learn more about this product by uploading a video. Bit disturbing do you think ? A hacksaw was the correct tool. Go to a doctor even if you don't have symptoms. My brother in law has a terrible reaction to phoenix spines, especially Roebelinis. Hello, sign in. MNT is the registered trade mark of Healthline Media. Poked by a thorn of the palm tree can cause severe tissue damage and lead to irritation, skin burns, swelling and infection. Also known as rose gardeners disease, rose pickers disease is the common name of sporotrichosis. No Phoenix in the garden, but when cleaning up we try to minimize confrontations with the Saribus rotundifolius, Elaeis oleifera and the young Verschaffeltia splendida. I might try and get something from "Castaway" next. People can fully recover from plant thorn arthritis with the correct diagnosis and treatment. The pain and swelling went down right away when in the past I was dealing with the puncture for days. I knew they were sharp but I didn't realize that they leave you with little splinters that cause irritation. The armament on the petioles shredded his chest and arms pretty good. Hawaii - Land of Volcanoes. Please make sure that you are posting in the form of a question. Lol. If this is your first visit, be sure to Just-a kick-a heem', like a dees!" If you have sago palms in or around your home, make sure your pets can't get close to them. There was a guy who fell into the crown of a Phoenix canariensis out in San Bernardino (he was working on a building and fell off and would have hit the ground, but the phoenix was there instead) and it took hours to extricate him. Yes, I've gotten stuck a lot. Other terms may apply. Part of the thorn remains in the joint, causing inflammation. It helped me learn, you only weed your own spiny palms! Bayside Melbourne 38 deg S. Winter Minimum 0 C over past 6 years. It hurt like heck, and got real hot and was painful for 2 days! International Palm Society member since 2007, http://community.webshots.com/user/zacspics - My Webshots Gallery, Hey you guys are capable of scaring the jeasus, since you guys all know how much i love phoenix, and as far as trimming of these varities goes i do it. I've been stabbed by spiny palms, or slashed by them. Upload or insert images from URL. Sago palms aren't just poisonous to people, but also to cats and dogs. OUTCH!!! Error posting question. Plants that can cause plant thorn arthritis include plum trees, palm trees, and brambles. Copernicia alba hooks while weed whackin. I've been stabbed by spiny palms, or slashed by them. A friend of ours who is a tree surgeon like my DH had a nasty infection after getting a thorn in his elbow. You may have to register Long Island, New York Zone 7a (where most of the southern Floridians are originally from), Summer Highs : 85-90f/day, 68-75f / night, Winter Lows : 38-45f/day, 25-35f / night, Extreme Low : 10-20f/day, 0-10f / night but VERY RARE. It really husts like hell most of the time and I have the upmost respect while trimming these leaves. Temps range from -1C to 46C. There may be a broken part of the thorn in the punctured wound. My infatuation with Livistona decora has caused me injury on numerous occasions, love it, like war wounds to brag about. Shrubs. . . 4 km inland from Indian River; 27 N (equivalent to Brisbane), Central Orlando's urban heat islandmay be warmer than us. A weed snapped off and my elbo snapped back into the frond. They may also take blood tests to confirm joint inflammation. Tropical Queensland. As a precaution to it's dainty but spiny tips, I cut the lower dead fronds and cut a few more that were badly damaged from the cold we received. What's this inside my palm? Help! Carlsbad, California Zone 10 B on the hill (402 ft. elevation). about 95% of the time. If you notice redness, swelling, itching, or other discomfort in the area of the thorn puncture after a few days, you may need to seek further treatment. It only takes a few stabs to learn. i have just taken a thorn out of my palm? Next injury came at the very end when I did the very same action, this time, I got stabbed right in the medial deltoid. Conclusions: Phoenix date palm injuries often have a protracted course. Sharp thorns on their branches, trunks and the undersides or tips of fronds can puncture the skin and cause bacterial or fungal infections. ", Zone - a wacked-out place between 9b & 10, Elevation = 44' - not that it does any good, (BS, Man about Palms @ Jan. 04 2007,21:03). It's a love-hate relationship growing these things! Which joints are affected by plant thorn arthritis? To protect yourself while picking roses or gardening in general, wear protective clothing like gloves. In this surgery, the connective tissue of the joint is removed. Oh, and did you ever have a Washingtonia frond come crashing down and rip your ear or your arm? We report the case of a 14 year old healthy boy, who was admitted six weeks after being injured by a palm tree thorn, with limping caused by pain and swelling in his right knee. MattyB, your my hero. how can i take it out? A few months back my 15 yr. old son was sliding down an outside bannister without a shirt on, fell off into a Washingtonia that was about 4' tall. If you have a severe form of sporotrichosis, you doctor might start your treatment with an intravenous dose of amphotericin B followed by an antifungal medication for at least a year. 14/04/2009 21:27. feel a tiny bit of a twonk now. Common sweetener erythritol tied to higher risk of stroke and heart attack, Gout: How metabolic syndrome may increase the risk, A new therapeutic target for the prevention of heart failure due to aortic stenosis, Skipping breakfast and fasting may compromise the immune system, Tips for recovery of an ankle replacement, wearing protective clothing and boots that cover the body, using tools for digging rather than their hands. In a novel, some Mafia guy's mom kept calling people who opposed her son (including the guy who eventually blew him up) a some-ba'-beesh! I had one go pretty deep into the side of ring finger. I know this plant as Phoenix palm, and its a nasty one. Sago palms grow in U.S. Department of Agriculture plant hardiness zones 9 through 10. By Dig hole for robelini, dig up robelini and put in new hole, plant A. alexandra in old robelini hole. One that might surprise some people for never really hurting me is the ferociously-named saw palmetto. 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